Ep 69 Transcript: Empowering Women in Male-Dominated Industries with Linda Leary
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Hello and welcome to the Real Women Real Business podcast. I am your host, Shauna Lynn Simon, and today I've got a great guest joining us. Today's guest is actually living proof that the best business ideas often tend to come from following your passion. So I think this is really going to hit home with my accidental SEOs out there who follow a passion in and really wanted to make a business out of it.
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So sometimes it takes a bit of a completely unexpected type of turn, and this guest can certainly attest to that. She's gone from navigating ice roads to navigating the male dominated fishing industry. But Linda Leary has never been afraid to chart her own course. So today, her company, fishing has grown from a small Anchorage, Alaska. That's right.
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You heard that correctly. A small Anchorage startup to into a nationally recognized brand that's been revolutionizing women's fishing apparel with bold, functional designs and through fishing. And her other venture, which is women's fly fishing, she's building communities and mentoring the next generation of female entrepreneurs and outdoor enthusiasts. So please welcome to the Real and Real Business Podcast, the founder, president and visionary behind Fishy, Linda Leary.
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Thank you for joining me. Thank you, Shauna Lynn. Appreciate it. I think this is just such a great story. So you were actually featured on Ice Road Truckers. Is this correct? I was a I owned the company. I was partners in the company that, had the show we filmed in Alaska. I decided to be on the show, but, we gotcha.
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Unknown
All right, boys, were you were there behind the scenes so you weren't part of the show? That's pretty exciting. And that's. Yeah, I mean, I can only imagine how that impacts your day to day operations when suddenly you've got this film crew now joining you on that. That's right. Yeah. We had, there must be some Fairbanks. And so there are at least ten, folks from the film crew filming our team for at least a couple of months every winter in the worst time of the year.
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Unknown
So. Wow, I, I can't even imagine some of the I did I recall catching a few episodes of the show, and I mean, it's just so while the conditions that you deal with. I do live in Canada, my winters are very real here, but slightly shorter and slightly less severe. I would I would think that lot. So okay, so tell me how you went from Ice Road Truckers and this logistics company to founding a woman's fishing apparel brand?
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Unknown
It's a bit of a pivot. Yeah, bit of a pivot. So probably before I even came to Alaska, I grew up in Maine and my dad was a big fly fisherman, so I fished with him, since I was a kid and moved to Alaska and was lucky enough to, continue doing a lot of fishing and, fell in the trucking industry and did that for almost 30 years.
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Unknown
And, was a partner in the trucking company. And, we were lucky enough to be featured in Ice Road Truckers, when they filmed in Alaska. And at that time, there were a lot of, reality shows being filmed in Alaska. There were film credits and things like that that were going on that were in, you know, causing some of that.
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Unknown
But, it was super fun and very wild stories that we would get. I can only imagine. So. Okay. So you grew up in Maine is that you were fishing with your dad and you always had this passion for. And you kept it up when you moved to Alaska. How did you go from, you know, this hobby of fishing to I'm going to create a women's apparel brand.
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Unknown
Like, what were you noticing was missing? I guess that that inspired this. Yeah. So I used to take we took clients fishing a lot when I was in trucking, and, I always made sure we had a group of gals, at least for one of the trips, and we'd be out on the river and I'd notice, gosh, muscle clothes you're wearing aren't their own.
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Unknown
You know, they're wearing their dads or their husbands long johns and things like that, that when you take your waders off after fishing, you don't want to hang out in front of anybody very much. And in that so why not have those, as a bass player that can go right from river to restaurant or, you know, go hang out with people and visit and not have to be embarrassed with what you're wearing and, and then have it fit to.
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Unknown
And it doesn't have to be tan, grant brown or green. It could be fun and colorful. So yeah, I mean, I guess there's something to be said for blending in with nature, but as women, we like to stand out from nature a little bit. So, what are they, a little bit more loud, a little bit more bold?
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Unknown
Yeah. So going from so, did you start this brand while you were still, in the trucking industry, or was this after you had left the trucking industry? It was after we had I had left, we sold our company, and I left a few months after we had sold it and decided that was one of the things that I wanted to do was to start this up as well as working, full time in another role.
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Unknown
So, just kind of sat down. I took a few months to about six months to get it up and running and started and, did lots of, whiteboarding and yellow sticky notes everywhere trying to figure out what I wanted it to look like. And my thought was, why nobody doing it? So why couldn't I do it so right?
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Unknown
What would you say were some of the most surprising things as you're getting started in this? I mean, I'm guessing this is the first time you ever decided to create your own apparel brand, so I'm sure there's probably some things along the way that you weren't quite expecting. Like, what were some of the surprising elements maybe that you encountered?
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Unknown
You know, I did not understand the I knew the language of trucking and transportation logistics. And I'd been running our company for the last five years before we sold it. So I knew the basics of running a business. But, so that part we had down. But like, manufacturing, I didn't know that at all. So you know, you always don't have a good network of people around you that are friends, that, you know, you help them and they help you.
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Unknown
So ask lots of questions. I bought a book called manufacturing 101 on Amazon because. Perfect. Yes, great way to do it. I need to research. And then just lots of conversations with people trying to sort through what it could look like. And how to do it. So, like I see on the way. So you mention that, you know, your experience in logistics was somewhat applicable in starting your own business.
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Unknown
You understood the business side of things. So what would you say were some of the things that you were able to bring from your past experience over into this new business?
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Unknown
I mean, I think just understanding how to set up, you know, your books, how to write, and you know, you needed insurance, you need to have a name, you need to have it trademarked.
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Unknown
And they, you know, just some of those real basics were, were key to doing that. Okay. And so, you know, getting into the women's fishing apparel, did you find some resistance along the way from the existing brands that were there? You know, because, again, you're you're kind of entering into this with the with a more female focus.
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Unknown
Or did you find that was sort of embraced in the industry of like, yes, this is something that we've always needed, like, let's, let's do this. I felt like it was something that was going to be needed. And, and it was embraced. Nobody else was doing it. You have a lot of the bigger brands that had were doing some things for women, but, it wasn't tremendous amount.
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Unknown
And, and they weren't there were so big. They weren't nimble enough to, to make changes like we did. Right? Right. No, that makes sense. You know, when I think of fishing, I'll admit I don't tend to think of women fishing. And yet, of course, I know that there is a huge market there. Was that a part of your getting getting set up is like identifying like what?
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Unknown
What market exists there that that needs to be served or did you already know, like there's tons of women that that are already doing this that want to be doing this, that I know I'm going to be able to serve? I worked with the Economic Development Corporation here in Alaska and did a little bit of research on, you know, the size of the market and how big it was.
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Unknown
And I knew that there were a lot and, and maybe in Alaska, there's a lot of women that like to fish. But around the nation, there's 21 million women with fishing licenses. Oh, wow. There's there's a few gals that like to fish and let alone, you know, for me, it's fun to just create a brand that it's also a lifestyle brand.
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Unknown
And it allows us to, you know, have clothes to wear to feel part of that community and to be able to build to build that out for us. Right. For the gals. Yeah. Now, like I said, I do kind of think of this as being sort of a male dominated industry. Have you found that that's been a challenge in building this business?
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Unknown
Have you? I mean, I think almost every woman can tell a story, at least one, if not multiple stories of being underestimated at times or, spoken down to. Are you finding that, you know, that you're being respected in the industry and that you're you are being really welcomed into it? Yeah. I mean, most of my career, whether it was trucking oil and gas work or, or fishing like I'm doing now is, definitely there aren't as many women in it, but I've never let it be a, something that stopped me.
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Unknown
And I think that's the one cool thing about Alaska is that doesn't matter if you're a guy or gal, it's just whoever can do the job. And so you're respected, you know, you're respected for that, but you have to also prove yourself. So that's that's a part of it. And, I, coming into the fishing, even though I had been in trucking and oil and gas for years, what I noticed is fishing is they were a bit behind some of the other industries I've been in and these, people being kind of anxious about the fact that they felt like their I had a harder time as a female.
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Unknown
And I just would tell them, it'll come around, you know, I've seen it before, right? I just doing it again. But, it's totally fine. But honestly, I try to not think of it as a it's, something to hold me back. I would say the only area that I do notice it is, and I think this is for women in general, is funding.
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Unknown
We've been trying to do, capital raises the last couple of years, and the funding for women and small business is drastically underfunded compared to others. So, that's probably one area that I, that I see. Yeah. That's interesting. What are some of the things that you've done to to try to overcome that? Are you looking more specifically at a particular type of funding?
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Unknown
That's a little bit more open to women, or are you just trying to break down the barriers wherever you can? Yeah, trying to break down barriers. You know, and, you know, have good people around us working. I'm a big believer in having networks of people that work with you that, you know, you you also get, you know, you maybe you work with them something in an area that you're not as strong in, but always make sure that you offer more to them and help than they give you.
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Unknown
And so that's always been really helpful for me. And so, just continue to do that. Yeah. I think it's so important. You know, they, they say that you are the people that you surround yourself with. And it's so true. And I mean, and that's not limited to those within a physical proximity either. And I'm sure you've probably built your network beyond Alaska.
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Unknown
As much as I'm sure you've, you've worked with your resources there and, and really capitalized on and leverage those. But yeah, we have to expand our own networks and, and find the people that are going to be like mine, that are going to support us, that are going to raise us up, and they're going to help us to move forward, because we are only as strong as the people that we surround ourselves with, quite honestly.
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Unknown
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All right. Welcome back to the Real Women Real Business podcast, where I'm being joined by Linda Leary, the president of fishy, which is a women's apparel, women's fishing apparel line. And we were talking about how she's been navigating the male dominated industry of fishing and how she's managed to to really embrace the the partners that she has and, and leverage the opportunities that come her way, which I think is so important for women, for all women today, no matter what industry you're in, regardless of whether or not as male dominated, we really need to ensure that we are leveraging those partnerships and making the most of those connections that we have, because we are
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Unknown
who we surround ourselves with. So, on that note, you know, with, fishing and the women's fly fishing that you're doing, so you're really creating spaces for women and that they can come together as a community. How has this community building approach influenced your business strategy as you've been building the business? You know, it's been really fun.
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Unknown
I'm a big collaborator, as it is so it's so fun to bring people together that enjoy, you know, the same things. And, and it's kind of a safe place for a lot of girls, where they can learn with friends or on their own and, not have necessarily their partner, their. No, I don't know what to do, but we all need space sometimes.
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Unknown
Yes, you need some space. You need some space. And and I think women listen and teach differently. So and women are very good listeners to coaching. So, so that makes it really fun. But, we have, you know, fishing and then we have women's fly fishing and, with women's fly fishing, we do hosted trips and we teach, girls how to fly fish.
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Unknown
And, there's just such a nice combination of the two together. And it's an opportunity to, to really, bring the community closer together and do events and things like that that are super fun. Well, I can imagine for a lot of women, like, get. Yeah. Must be a really great escape and break from the norm.
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Unknown
And, you know, I know it's still work for you, but I'm sure that you get a lot of, energizing. It's a it's a it's an energizing experience for everyone. Yeah, yeah. Now you've grown into, like, a national brand. Like, you're not just. You're not just serving Anchorage, Alaska. You know, you sort of go into a national brand, which is not an easy thing to do for anyone to break beyond their local barriers.
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Unknown
What were some of the decisions that you made that helped you to move to that national stage? Well, having grown up in trucking, I knew that if you're going to scale your business, you can't just depend on the local market because you're going to saturate it at some point. So you need to, expand into the what we called the lower 48 span.
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Unknown
Right. Because our way up here, oh expand national. And so I had experience doing national sales on the trucking side and having terminals in different, states. So that didn't bother me at all. And, you know, really picking partners that we work with, like, we, you know, we're for a girl from Maine. We were in L.L.Bean, and in a, in some other key, wholesale or retail accounts that, you know, support working with women and, and, and support fishing.
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Unknown
There's not a lot like our what we do. You know, we're very art based and and, we create a fish that's and then, make it fun and give it fun names and. Yeah. And so what were some of the ways that you managed to get into some of those bigger accounts? I mean, that's a pretty big deal being with bean.
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Unknown
Like, how did you how did you manage to get your foot in the door there? Is there any sort of strategy, or is it just like I knew someone or like, how did you manage to, you know, I'm trying to remember, I think just reached out to them and, we're also we collab with Orvis and with extra tough boots.
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Unknown
And so there's some big brands and I think you just have to be your authentic self and, you know, go meet these people. You got to go to trade shows. You gotta go meet a B level. Like I'd love to network. So it's not as hard for me as it would maybe as for other people. But and then you really have to nurture and treasure those, relationships too, and take care of them, for sure.
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Unknown
But I love how simple that is. So you're just like, just reach out to them like it's okay to work at it. Yeah, it's it really is just putting it back to the simplicity of it. And I think this is something we get caught up in, in today's environment. I know a lot of the clients that I work with are absolutely terrified of the idea of just picking up the phone and cold calling someone, and it could be an email, perhaps, or you're reaching out on social media, you know, whatever it might look like, depending on the partners are trying to connect with and where where they are that you can meet with them.
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Unknown
But I would feel like for something like a well-being, like that's something that you have to pick up the phone and start calling them just to get to the right person. And and just like you said, be yourself and explain to them what is it you're doing, while also ensuring that you're positioning it in a way that they're going to be interested.
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Unknown
And they want to know more, like you've got to help them fairly quickly in this conversation. But you don't need to sound like a news broadcaster. All seems like, hey, hey, hey, I'm calling from, you know what I mean? Like, it can be very authentic. Yeah. And very real. So good for you for, you know, moving outside.
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Unknown
I mean, it sounds like it is in your comfort zone for a lot of women. It's outside their comfort zone. So good on you for embracing that. But it just goes to show that you never know where your next big client is going to come from. But you can control that in a way if you are actually taking that initiative.
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Unknown
So that's pretty powerful. Yeah. So is there, you know, there ways that you feel that you are empowering women through your brand? Is there are there ways that you're showcasing that empowerment or is it something you're just kind of quietly doing just by by being your everyday brand? Essentially? Well, I think we showcase it in a multitude of ways.
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Unknown
We're one thing that we're trying to do now is expanding into the southeast and other markets like the bass community, you know, for some of these, communities and the style of fishing that they do, they don't have a lot of clothes and nothing really special for women to wear. And so why can't we help figure that out?
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Unknown
And, you know, to me, it's really important to help build confidence with these girls, young or old, and, get them out there and, and show them they can do whatever they put their minds to. They just need to have a goal and figure out how they're going to do it. And, you know, what are they really committed to?
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Unknown
So yeah. So what does it look like when you're coming up with a new line? What is the sort of the product development stage look like? Like are you bringing in specific women. Are you doing focus groups. Are you doing surveys or drawing from your own experience, like how does how does it take us through a little bit of the process of that?
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Unknown
So we have ambassadors. So we work with our ambassadors to come up with new things. A lot of us, my experience and then just the friends that I'm fishing with and things that we see, that could be an opportunity. Sometimes it's going to different trade shows or even different industries. I'm looking at items maybe that they have that could be used for our industry.
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Unknown
So we're trying to have more of a fashion base to the fishing without it being frilly and pink necessarily, but that it's, but stylish, stylish, and it fits well and it's not it's not silly, right? I mean, you got to have some fun with it, but you got to. You want girls want to be. They want to be respected too.
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Unknown
And they're out there on the water. But they also want to, you know, and we have clients that want more muted colors and patterns. And, but then there's the ones who just love all the bright colors. And so right about appeal to. Yeah. Trying to appeal to the broader market while also not so not eliminating anyone and also not trying to appeal to absolutely everyone because then you would end up having way too many lines, I'm sure, to keep up.
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Unknown
Yeah, too. Yeah, yeah. And then we're very sizing inclusive. So we go up to 3X2X extra small to three x. So and I think we get a lot of appreciation for that. And and gals just you know any number of times I've had them say thank you for creating this because we have something that we can wear. And then the guys say, hey, what about fish?
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Unknown
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Unknown
You can just change the letters a little bit. But I love that too, though, you know, when the men are starting to say, wait a minute, now, now that we're seeing what the women are wearing, we're kind of falling behind a little bit here. So fun stuff too. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, who knows that. Never say never, I suppose.
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Unknown
Right. Yeah, exactly. So you mentioned something that I want to circle back to. You talked about the ambassadors that you have. Tell me a little bit about that and how you grew the ambassadors, like what is an ambassador, first of all, why don't we start with that? So an ambassador for us is somebody that is active in the flight, especially in the fly fishing industry.
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Unknown
We've expanded it now to, other conventional and other types of fishing. But, and that they, you know, represent themselves and, and, female in the outdoors and the way that we, that we want to be represented and, they're active on social. They're, they out fishing actively and, and, you know, they're, they're good, good people and someone that you'd want to go fish with.
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Unknown
So, so how do you bring them on as an ambassador? What is you know, did you just reach out to them and, and bring them on and they promote you? Is that sort of how that works? Yeah. So we right now, I think the last time we put out a call for ambassadors, we had 200 applicants. Oh, wow.
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Unknown
Yeah. Which is great. Yeah, yeah. And then the hard part is trying to pick, you know. Yeah. The ladies and then and the we have them, you know, they and you do they agree to do a certain amount of posting and, video and stuff like that. And, and we'll have them help us. And at different trade shows we do sometimes and, and try to, you know, get to know and build a relationships with them too.
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Unknown
But, we probably right now have about 20. And in the beginning we had probably half a dozen or so. But we keep the, alumni on as well, and we try to kind of roll it every couple of years. We'll we'll do a new call out for ambassadors. So what inspired you to to reach out to creating this sort of ambassador network?
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Unknown
Was it, you know, was this a marketing strategy from early on? Is this something that came up as you were building the brand? What did this look like? It kind of came up as we were building the brand that, and and from people asking us, hey, do you have ambassadors? Can we can I be part of your team and be part of your community?
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Unknown
And, no, it's really a way to celebrate women around the nation that are fishing and that love to fish, and they love to teach people to, you know, fish and share it. And there's a certain joy around, how much fun they're having out there and, you know, celebrating it and, you know, sharing it with their families, sharing it with other girls, you know, their girlfriends and, you know, other friends.
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Unknown
And so so if someone's listening to this episode right now and they're thinking about entering an industry, you know, I we've again, we've had women on here in the past who are in more male dominated industries. So, maybe they're looking to enter an industry where they feel like they might be underrepresented in some way, and they want to break through with a new idea, a new concept, a new way of looking at things for them.
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Unknown
What sort of advice would you give them for getting started? Well, I would say I'd be very focused on, what you're trying to accomplish and really what your ambition and what you're doing. And, you just ignore the other the noise around you about why you can't do something and really focus on how you can. What's the opportunity?
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Unknown
What can you do? You get lots of naysayers around you all the time, and you just have to really stay focused on where you're headed with, with your company and what you want to do with it. And, and how are you going to get there and have a detailed plan? That's I think that's a great idea for every entrepreneur that don't focus on what you can't do, focus on what you can.
00:28:11:14 - 00:28:35:06
Unknown
If at the end of the day you're looking at and you're saying, well, the things that I can do are so limited, I'm never going to be able to get this going. Like, maybe it isn't an idea that you need to abandon, but if you if you really feel passionate about and you see the path through it, then yeah, I keep focusing on what you can do, keep inching through it as you need to, because, I mean, just take a look at this is such a great example of of what you can truly accomplish with that.
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Unknown
What sort of your vision for the future of, you know, inclusive outdoor spaces and, you know, and the, the fishing community and other sort of communities, outdoor related communities like that and how fishing's contributed to that. What sort of your vision for the future of the company, the brand and, and how it, plays in those spaces?
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Unknown
I think that it's, it's an opportunity to just keep creating. I mean, for me, working in an industry mostly of my life is mostly with guys, right? And now I'm doing women's clothing and gear, and I, you know, it's just really an opportunity to create something that hasn't existed. Not to say we can't do something for the guys, too, but, you know, why not?
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Unknown
Why not do it? And I think we're small and nimble enough that we can do it, whereas the bigger brands are like, the female side of things is niche. And I'm like, how can 21 million women be knitted? That's what I don't understand. So that doesn't make sense to me. Right? Right. Well, I think you I, I'm really, so impressed by all that you're doing.
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Unknown
And I think there's such an empowering, aspect of this that comes with it. I think, you know, we we've talked about I had, one of my previous guests, Anastasia Hay, talks about female empowerment through what we wear. And I think this is a great example of that. Like we when we are dressed the way that we want to be, when we look the way that we want to be as women, we do feel better.
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Unknown
We do feel more confident. And so I think that that's a great example of like what you are bringing to the fishing industry for so many women, 21 million for that matter. I mean, that's like you said, that is a that is a massive market as of people who, you know, aren't being represented in the best way. So I think it's so empowering what what you're doing, what you're bringing.
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Unknown
So I appreciate you doing that. And you've actually you've got a special offer for our listeners. So if anyone, listening to this is like I need to first of all, she's been talking about, you know, the cool styles, the the, you know, the fun designs and, and the, the way that they fit and the overall design of all of the, the, the clothing that they've created.
00:30:54:21 - 00:31:22:04
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00:31:22:04 - 00:31:42:10
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I think that it's again, such a unique topic, such a unique adventure that you've been on. And if you've got one piece of advice or one thing that you one takeaway from this episode that you'd like to leave our listeners with today, what would that be? I'd say, get out of your comfort zone. And you're going to have great learning.
00:31:42:12 - 00:32:02:21
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And don't be afraid to pivot in your career like I did, and you'll be fine. I always, I always say the magic happens just outside of your comfort zone. That's where the real magic happens. And that's exactly phase. Yeah. Well, Linda, honestly, thank you so much for joining me today. This has been such an honor. Thank you.
00:32:02:23 - 00:32:17:15
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Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Jonathan. Thank you. And if you're listening to this episode, this is resonating with you. I really hope that you will continue to invite us in to join you on your journey week after week. And of course, the best way that you can support us is to subscribe to us on your favorite podcast platform.
00:32:17:15 - 00:32:33:09
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Leave us a review as well. And of course, as always, share this episode with the woman in your life who you know is just going to get so much out of it is going to really benefit from a who's going to really thrive from the lessons that we shared here today. And until next time, everyone keep thriving.